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“whatever it's called these days. But I feel like this idea…” — The Vergecast at 59:12

“whatever it's called these days. But I feel like this idea of, at least in the U.S., it's always been very hard for people to grasp, I need to do all these things in this app. Because I like Venmo, or I like the Cash app, or I like this music app, or I don't know. I mean, the argument against interoperability for all…”

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