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“you know, thought more, not thought more about the…” — The Vergecast at 55:47

“you know, thought more, not thought more about the software, but kind of like seen it as a software first kind of phone rather than all the like hardware gimmicks. Like they had some very bad ideas about software too, clearly. But I don't know, the thing about the Firefly and object recognition, like we're still…”

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