“I didn't really have any encounters with it. Everyone…” — The Vergecast at 51:44
“I didn't really have any encounters with it. Everyone around me was also poor in college. But I do remember going to San Francisco on day trips because I went to Santa Cruz for college. It was close. And I did see random people on the street occasionally with them on. And at the time, I was just thinking, I want it…”
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