“Both, honestly. If it's both, is it neither, or is it…” — The Vergecast at 1:18:04
“Both, honestly. If it's both, is it neither, or is it both? It's both, because it was remarkably bad in the sense of, like, if you're going to pitch this technology, you absolutely did not land it. But it was remarkably good in the sense that, like, you actually made a thing that made people see what the vision was.…”
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