“what things always look like in this stage, right? But so…” — The Vergecast at 10:03
“what things always look like in this stage, right? But so this is like not long before this becomes a real product. They're just messing around, right? Playing with this kind of stuff. And this is also like late 2010, early 2011 is kind of right as it starts to come out that Apple is starting to think about…”
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