“Whether or not each individual company had gotten UL…” — The Vergecast at 22:17
“Whether or not each individual company had gotten UL certification, most of them hadn't, and how important that can be. And that was a big one. Yeah, UL certification is another thing. One of those you're like, I wish I never needed to learn about this. I'm glad it exists, and I hope I never think about it again.…”
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