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“Got it. Okay. That's really interesting. And this…” — The Vergecast at 29:42

“Got it. Okay. That's really interesting. And this actually, this all gives me way more context for something I read right after all this happened. There was a great, the New York Times had a big story right after Grokster was decided. It was the day after. And they actually called Mark Gorton at LimeWire and asked him,”

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