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“Honestly, maybe you stay out of the version Hall of Fame…” — The Vergecast at 1:05:09

“Honestly, maybe you stay out of the version Hall of Fame because you created a dystopian hell where you have screens everywhere. Like, I love it. It's the perfect gadget. There's just so much about its boxiness and 80s-ness that, like, brings so much joy. But then I think about my life right now and how TikTok is my…”

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