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“This is sort of the end of that dream where like now I…” — The Vergecast at 15:41

“This is sort of the end of that dream where like now I don't think most creators are spending a lot of time thinking like, how do I get an NBC pilot? But they were then. And so all these folks were going to move to L.A. and have like traditional Hollywood careers. And they all move into this one apartment complex at…”

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