“And in those days, iPod killers get announced left and…” — The Vergecast at 41:17
“And in those days, iPod killers get announced left and right. But this was Microsoft. They're doing it. They've integrated it. You got Jay Allard, who's a big personality, is running this team. So like we've been talking about, the reviews were not great. And pretty much everybody had kind of the same theory that…”
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