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“Like, phone ecosystems did not exist. Like, Engadget and…” — The Vergecast at 44:32

“Like, phone ecosystems did not exist. Like, Engadget and Gizmodo were the first gadget logs. Yeah. So, like, everyone was having these experiences for the first time, which is crazy to think about now. Like, there was not tech YouTube. So, like, this was, oh, the battle's being joined by the big dog, right? Apple's…”

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