“This thing eventually became the most popular non-Apple…” — The Vergecast at 49:39
“This thing eventually became the most popular non-Apple media player, which I guess is like... It's just because it's Microsoft. Well, yeah, it's like saying it's the most popular non-Google search engine. Like, congratulations. You know what I mean? Yeah, there's that, but it's also like at the time Apple tried to…”
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