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“400 times more complicated than it felt like it needed to…” — The Vergecast at 1:03:16

“400 times more complicated than it felt like it needed to be. Yeah. Whereas like at some point, Apple, you just drag the thing and it's probably fine. All right. Question number three. Would it have been a bigger hit if Apple made it? Yes. The obvious answer is yes, because they did. They did. It's called the iPod.…”

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