“We are making tools so that you will make culture. And…” — The Vergecast at 1:15:33
“We are making tools so that you will make culture. And then the iPod is there for, because I love Bob Dylan. He was able to go to the artists themselves and connect with them and build great products because he respected them. And that, Microsoft just couldn't do it for the longest time. They got a little bit better…”
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