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“And like, obviously, there's a contradiction here. And…” — Pod Save America at 18:49

“And like, obviously, there's a contradiction here. And like, well, what are you looking to get out of your VP, right? One is just like, we got to win fucking Pennsylvania. That's why we need Josh Shapiro. The other is people don't vote based on who the VP is, right? Paul Ryan didn't deliver Wisconsin. The VP pick is…”

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