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“First of all, we should say that his excuses are bullshit.…” — Pod Save America at 25:50

“First of all, we should say that his excuses are bullshit. The suit against ABC was filed in March before he already agreed to the ABC debate with Biden. So the whole George Stephanopoulos thing is not a real excuse. He's generally scared to debate. He was in the primaries, the Republican primaries. He just wasn't…”

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