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“The country had a very set opinion of Hillary Clinton in…” — Pod Save America at 33:35

“The country had a very set opinion of Hillary Clinton in 2016. The country has a fairly set opinion of Joe Biden, right? Specifically in 2024. In 2020, they still knew Joe Biden a lot, but, you know, he had not been on the top of the ticket, right? Like Kamala Harris, people know, her name idea is obviously very…”

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