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“you know, farming or something. This is a cliche, but just…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 40:08

“you know, farming or something. This is a cliche, but just not doing software for a while, trying something completely different. I mean, we know you fly planes, but that's more of a hobby, right? I do fly planes. I do. Yeah, that is a hobby. But it's, I didn't get all pessimistic like a lot of people get. I still…”

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