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“I concur with that. Jared was, well, I think you, do you…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 1:31:31

“I concur with that. Jared was, well, I think you, do you still use Terminal, Jared? I do. Okay, so you can really speak to this well. I'm speaking to you directly. No, I'm happy to hear it. It's because he has a different way of thinking. He wants to use Mac. I'm a minimalist, so I don't want to install unless I have…”

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