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“And then you can trade or sell those cards. So it's an…” — My First Million at 37:18

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“And then you can trade or sell those cards. So it's an investment. It's not spending. And that's what Pokemon did that afterwards. Hearthstone did that afterwards. And now like a lot of the like sports card stuff have really taken that model and run with it. But you know, magic was really”

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