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“A lot of this stuff is all, as you point out, it's like…” — Pod Save America at 27:45

“A lot of this stuff is all, as you point out, it's like Trump creates this fake reality, and then he creates a series of fake solutions to solve the fake problems from the fake reality, like the electric vehicle mandate. Just declaring the government will stop censorship, will stop censoring things. All of that is…”

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