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“I said then that if he does the preemptive pardons, it…” — Pod Save America at 56:22

“I said then that if he does the preemptive pardons, it will at least put the Hunter pardon in a better light. I still disagree with it, but I'm good for Joe Biden. I think the preemptive pardons, it is sad that he has to do preemptive pardons for a bunch of people who committed no crimes. But when you have a person…”

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