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“But it did it in a matter of just a few years. And we…” — Pod Save America at 1:15:21

“But it did it in a matter of just a few years. And we shouldn't be so cynical or apathetic or resign to believe that it can't change just as much in the other direction in another couple of years. We have to slowly work towards that in all the ways we can. And that's a very big goal. And that's a hard goal. And it's…”

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