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“I mean, indoctrination is not a concept I think we look…” — The Ezra Klein Show at 20:24

“I mean, indoctrination is not a concept I think we look back on with a lot of fondness and having a party sit there and tell me how I should look at everything in the world and be able to socially or possibly professionally and patronage models punish me if I don't look at it that way.”

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