“So the heyday of mass politics in, for example, the 30s…” — The Ezra Klein Show at 28:39
“So the heyday of mass politics in, for example, the 30s and 40s, maybe a bit in the 50s, was also the start of the nuclear race, which many people seemed as the supreme expression of power in the 20th century is the most anti-democratic weapon, as George Orwell said.”
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