“politics. It makes people, you know, we started this…” — The Ezra Klein Show at 35:21
“politics. It makes people, you know, we started this conversation saying superlatives, why people loathe you? I mean, some people do loathe you. Yes, some people do. Do you understand why? Do you think what you're doing is helpful for Western policy? Maybe some people do loathe me. And that's”
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