“I think about the Buckley, the doll debates where they're…” — The Ezra Klein Show at 37:31
“I think about the Buckley, the doll debates where they're threatening to punch each other in the face on live television. Let's stop calling him. Let's stop calling him. Let's not stand face. Let's stay plastic. Gentlemen, let's build. Tell me about your intuition that there is an absence now of”
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