“think there is a person that I mentioned to it. I mean, he…” — The Ezra Klein Show at 44:50
“think there is a person that I mentioned to it. I mean, he himself went through the transition of different media regimes. He was the man of television, the kind of showman of reality TV in the 80s, 90s, and 2000s. And then he, I think, handily transitioned or moved into the era of the algorithm”
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