“Trump himself is a unusual case, but MAGA, MAGA as a kind…” — The Ezra Klein Show at 46:12
“Trump himself is a unusual case, but MAGA, MAGA as a kind of broader movement that for many of its people, you can really live in. It really does have ideas. Increasingly, it has institutions that are associated with it and leaders who are associated with it. You can live in its world. It can give”
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