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“are associated with it and leaders who are associated with…” — The Ezra Klein Show at 46:27

“are associated with it and leaders who are associated with it. You can live in its world. It can give you a sort of meaning. It has rallies. In some ways, it seems very much more like past eras of politics to than anything we've seen more recently. So from your perspective, is MAGA hyper-politics? Is it the”

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