“She's so I think it's in the text that she is absolutely…” — The Daily at 34:11
“She's so I think it's in the text that she is absolutely meant to be brilliant. But like him, I think she's a complicated figure. We also, as I think Emily, you've pointed out the text also recedes from us ever really knowing Penelope that it's hard to get inside her head and really hear her perspective. I don't…”
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