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“We need energy today, but we've also got to meet that need…” — Up First from NPR at 27:31

“We need energy today, but we've also got to meet that need without leaving problems for the next generation, right? And what we have seen from a century and a half of the oil industry is that it is really challenging to do that when the economic incentives, the money-making opportunities are all about today rather…”

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