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“You can't try to take all this praise and like write a…” — Pod Save America at 41:11

“You can't try to take all this praise and like write a book about leadership when you know that things haven't gone perfectly. And that, you know, some are the reason that the things got better in New York is because the wave hit so hard and so early. Right. Like, it's like if you don't want all the blame, you also…”

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