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“And nobody knows who you are. So to be like a media voice…” — Bankless at 22:23

“And nobody knows who you are. So to be like a media voice in a bull market for the first time is like, good luck. It's really difficult. You get to the bear market. We come out 2024, things are hot again. And now I'm like, okay, I have like a place. And I have like a place. I belong here. These people are my peers…”

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