“that I fall into the ladder camp a little bit, which is…” — Bankless at 15:06
“that I fall into the ladder camp a little bit, which is like, I was a hustler in high school and middle school. I always had some weird little, not grift, but some little hustle and friendship bracelets in elementary school. I had some little scheme to make money. Yeah, you're entrepreneurial. Exactly. And I went to…”
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