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“It's a real thing. There's a lot of software running a lot…” — The Vergecast at 33:45

“It's a real thing. There's a lot of software running a lot of companies and you can widen out. But that doesn't mean you can do everything. And it doesn't mean you can eat the whole world. And I just see this gap where everybody in that industry is like, why doesn't Wired like tech anymore? Or why does The Verge hate…”

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