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“I mean, look, here's my usual caveat. It is very hard to…” — The Vergecast at 52:06

“I mean, look, here's my usual caveat. It is very hard to make money making media on the internet. Sure. And there's a lot of creators out there and a lot of influencers and like, go make your bag. Do it how you got to do it. They just make a different thing than we make. And so my criticism here is not of people in…”

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