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“And they just make it real stretchy. Like, that's not…” — The Vergecast at 1:06:25

“And they just make it real stretchy. Like, that's not, that is not the answer. And neither is the malware. Constantly asking, begging for. Do you have any financial information, by the way, that I should know? Have you considered downloading your banking app? Yeah, I think the other side of this is, like, I've…”

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