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“This is not, this is Apple going to sort of try to do the…” — The Vergecast at 1:07:37

“This is not, this is Apple going to sort of try to do the like prove the market thing, but there is no market. And it's just, is this the Vision Pro or is this the iPod, right? Where they put up the slide of all the ugly ones and they're like, we did better. Is it that or is it look at this science project that we…”

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