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“You're powerful if people think you're powerful. This is…” — The Vergecast at 1:15:48

“You're powerful if people think you're powerful. This is like the theory of true power. A PTA meeting. Yeah. You know what I mean? A Planned Parenthood board meeting. I don't think he's the most powerful person in that room. You can come up with an infinite list of rooms in which Donald Trump would not be the most…”

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