“You know, like those descriptors of Trump, tough…” — Pod Save America at 27:26
“You know, like those descriptors of Trump, tough, energetic, focused, effective. Like, yeah, they make sense. I get why people would say that about him. Like, I get why, you know, he's in a honeymoon period at the beginning of his term. Again, Joe Biden had high approval ratings at this time, too. So it's not super…”
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