“The slightly optimistic version of this, and I don't share…” — Pod Save America at 38:29
“The slightly optimistic version of this, and I don't share this view really, is that there was sort of a willful or maybe accidental misreading of what the judge said, because it was a little bit sloppily worded or confusingly worded. And some people were interpreting his ruling as saying even the secretary of the…”
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