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“It's hard. It's hard to talk. It's hard to deal with…” — Pod Save America at 15:43

“It's hard. It's hard to talk. It's hard to deal with because it's meant to be. But the answers that we seem to offer most often are like distraction. Boy, this is crazy. And constitutional crisis. As if like if you add the word constitutional, it unlocks a new set of like controls. I don't know. But I do think it's…”

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