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“having to be the leader, stepping up and saying, okay…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 45:40

“having to be the leader, stepping up and saying, okay, guys, we're doing this, making progress when people disagree, handling those kinds of situations. As someone who's a little bit of a people pleaser like me, learning to kind of own the authority of being the lead designer. That took me some years, and that was a…”

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