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“We're both from Europe originally, don't get to go there a…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 1:22:30

“We're both from Europe originally, don't get to go there a lot, and it's rushed when we do. Just go spend a bunch of time. I think travel is going to be fairly big. Yeah. That sounds amazing. We still have, our youngest is seven, oldest is 17. So we're in the range where we're starting to get some freedoms back. You…”

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