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“Okay, it's good. Joanna's like, it's my first podcast. Now…” — The Vergecast at 1:28:42

“Okay, it's good. Joanna's like, it's my first podcast. Now I will make my point. We're debate style. We're doing it. Well, no, I teed you up perfectly for your point, which is the Google part of this. Yeah, I mean, the back and forth here is that these big smartphone vendors have tried to get ever more deeply…”

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