“it just doesn't seem like the smartphone makers are…” — The Vergecast at 1:30:15
“it just doesn't seem like the smartphone makers are getting traction and taking over the cars. And I know Ford was like, we have to have CarPlay in our cars. That's our big differentiation against GM. We're going to have it. Why would I compete with your phone? And I think they did not want everything that came with…”
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