“and really looking at them for who they are and not…” — SmartLess at 36:11
“and really looking at them for who they are and not overestimating them or underestimating them. That is, you know, it's always, it will always be my goal. It's to sort of go, oh my God, where are you? Who are you? What are you? And how can I reach you? You know, it doesn't mean I'm the best mom, but I wake up every…”
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