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Austin Enneagram
by Austin Enneagram
Elizabeth Chapin of Austin Enneagram and apprentice of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile, introduces the Enneagram personality types
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EPISODE 52 - Reissue of episode 26 - intro to Naranjo Book Study
Reissuing this without the end music, as it got taken down. So an abrupt ending. And I noticed a few weird glitchy spots toward the end. I don’t know what happened. But this is an important place to start before diving into the Naranjo episodes Intro to Naranjo - no end music
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EPISODE 51 - Reissue of Naranjo Type 5 - no end music
This ends abruptly, because I had to cut the end music clip off. But putting this back up so it is out there Naranjo 5 no end music
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EPISODE 50 - Enneagram and AI (part 2)
Part 2 of Episode 49, this conversation comes from my friend Wyatt Rodgers feeding episode 49 into his AI. ChatGPT refines its analysis of Wyatt’s enneagram type and then gives us more feedback on what my and Wyatt’s blind spots might be in this analysis, which I found to be really impressive. Grateful for end music “3:35 pm, Clearing Not Far From Camp” by Adam Hilton <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " > Wyatt’s face when I use the word “interesting” Wyatt feeding AI the enneagram part 2
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EPISODE 49 - Enneagram and AI
What happens when you feed your thoughts and feelings into AI, form a relationship with it over time, and then ask it what your Enneagram number is? My friend Wyatt Rodgers, having done just that, joins me in discussing his use of AI as a self awareness tool, like the Enneagram.Gratitude for end music “3:35 pm, Clearing Not Far From Camp” by Adam Hilton, who created this in conjunction with my exhibition Treespell. <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " > Wyatt lounging in the kitchen Wyatt and AI number 1 - 3:22:25, 10.50 PM
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EPISODE 48 - The Buddhist Enneagram - talking to Susan Piver
Susan Piver, meditation teacher and writer of the nuanced book The Buddhist Enneagram, merges concepts of Buddhism and Enneagram, emphasizing how the Enneagram is a spiritual tool and not a self-help program, personality typer, or life hack. She talks of our 3 centers of intelligence (mental/head triad-delusion, heart/emotional triad-grasping, and body/instinct triad-aggression) as the 3 poisons. And arrows of integration and disintegration as peaceful and wrathful deities. We just grazed the early chapters of her very helpful book, with my dog Wendell repeatedly groaning in her lap. There is much more to dig into. Also, when I talk about “centering” myself in this podcast, I am talking about the compulsion to see myself as the center of my experience. I am not talking about centering prayer or grounding oneself. I am literally talking about overfocusing on self and individual identity.End music is by artists Adam Hilton and Henna Chou created in collaboration with my exhibition Treespell (3:35pm, clearing not far from camp on the album Forest Meditation) <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " > Susan Piver - 10:31:24, 1.44 PM
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Episode 46 - Reissue of Helen Palmer Type 8 with Bernadette Noll
Reissuing my conversation with friend, writer, activist Bernadette Noll. We discuss type 8 in Helen Palmer’s book. This was taken down and I am adding it back with no end music. Helen Palmer final type 8 with Bernadette - 8:8:24, 8.15 PM
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Episode 17 - Type 3 Mistyping (2024 reissue with no end music)
putting this back out there as this got taken down AEepisode17 6:19:24 10 46 AM Austin Enneagram
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Episode 12 - Special Early Coronavirus Episode with Type 6 panel (no end music)
reissuing this episode as it got taken down AE12corona6 6:19:24 10 43 AM Austin Enneagram
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Episode 3 Enneagram Type 3 - (2024 remix with no end music)
reissuing episode 3 since it got taken down Austin Enneagram Episode 3 Type 3 (no end music)
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Episode 2 - Enneagram Type 2 - (2024 remix with no end music)
reissuing this episode on type 2 since it got taken down Austin Enneagram Episode 2 (no end music)
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EPISODE 47 - Helen Palmer Type 9 (with Erica DeLorenzo
The last chapter in the Helen Palmer book study. Type 9 discussion with fellow Vermonter Erica DeLorenzo. One of my favorite quotes of hers, “I love wanting what other people want.” I also liked talking about how anger “leaks” out of a 9. Hope you enjoy. Let me know what you think. End music is a fair use snippet of Garth Brooks “The Dance” because 9s show us how to do it. Helen Palmer Type 9 With Erica <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " >
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EPISODE 46 - Helen Palmer Type 8 (with Bernadette Noll)
<figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " > Helen Palmer Enneagram Type 8 with Bernadette Bernadette Noll is the author of Slow Family Living, the poem I Want to Age Like Sea Glass, and founder of Reduce, Reuse, Remake, an organization which finds ways to build community and cut back on consumption. She and I discuss the type 8 in Helen Palmer’s book The Enneagram, Understanding Yourself and Others in Your LifePurchase Bernadette’s book for parents of young children in your life here:https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/311596/slow-family-living-by-bernadette-noll/I reference the book I am reading: The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know is Possible by Charles EisensteinFor information on why I don’t want to use the word “inner city,” these articles are helpful:https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/10/inner-city-violence-in-the-age-of-mass-incarceration/382154/https://www.urban.org/2016-analysis/problem-talking-about-inner-citiesEnd music is “Won’t Back Down” by Tom PettyPlease share and comment
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EPISODE 45 - Helen Palmer Type 7 (with my mom!)
I revisit Helen Palmer’s Chapter on Type 7 with my mom. My favorite comment “You can’t help your feelings, I can’t help my speed!” <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " > Helen Palmer Type 7 with Mom take 2- 6:2:23, 7.31 PM end music is “My Cosmos is Mine” by Depeche Mode
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EPISODE 44 - Helen Palmer Type 7 with Rachel Lomas
Rachel Lomas — friend, political activist, great cook - an epicure for sure - joins me today in a conversation about Helen Palmer’s chapter on type 7 helen palmer type 7 Rachel Lomas - 5_7_23, 6.14 PM <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " > end music is Walking on a Dream by Empire of the Sun
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EPISODE 43 - Helen Palmer Type 6
My friend Kathie Sever —the founder of the merry band of chainstitching geniuses at Ft Lonesome joins me again to discuss Helen Palmer’s chapter on type 6. My take away is that 6s are roving confirmation bias seekers/busters. Finding all the facts to support their ideas or finding all the facts that don’t. Also, Kathie’s idea of a knight in shining armor might have to be a series for each number. I love it. When I said Russ Hudson had a word for 4s, I meant Claudio Naranjo used the word “vindictive”When Kathie refers to IFS therapy, she is talking about Internal Family Systems therapyThe Jungian podcast we love is called The Salome Institute, led by Satya Doyle Byock (author of “Quarterlife”— an excellent gift for anyone in their 20s).Tim Urban is the author Kathie refers to — he wrote “What’s our Problem” and Kathie recommends him on Lex Fridman podcast #360The documentary on the NXIVM cult is called “Seduced”The parable of the farmer is from the children’s book “Zen Shorts” by Jon Muthend music is Doubt by Twenty One Pilots Helen Palmer Type 6 with Kathie Sever - 4:12:23, 11.58 AM <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " >
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EPISODE 42 - Helen Palmer Type 5 (with Nathaniel)
I recorded Helen Palmer’s chapter on type 5 with my 5 husband Nathanielend music is Space Cowboy by Kacey Musgraves Helen Palmer Type 5 with Nathaniel <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " > <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " >
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EPISODE 41 - Helen Palmer Type 5
Lillian Sims joins me in discussing Helen Palmer’s chapter on the type 5out music is “Where is my Mind” sung by Tkay Maidza Helen Palmer Type 5 with Lillian Sims <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " >
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EPISODE 40 - Helen Palmer Type 4
My friend and jewelry designer Nak Armstrong joins me in nearly 2 hours of type 4 conversation, where I am pretty sure we successfully debunk any notions of sexiness in our type, thanks to the excellent ideas of Helen Palmer. Helen Palmer Type 4 with Nak <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " > out music is patron saint of 4, Chopin’s Piano Concerto no. 2 in F Minor (of course!!!), Larghetto. This piece is one of my favorites and, to me, encompasses all the mercurial moodiness, beauty, longing and rage of type 4. Orchestra della Toscana, conductor, Daniele Rustioni
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EPISODE 39 - Helen Palmer Type 3 with my daughter Alabel
I felt compelled to take the opportunity to go through Helen Palmer’s chapter about 3s with my daughter Alabel. She modeled “polyphasic activity” by clipping her nails while podcasting with me!!! You will hear it. There are a few things I wish I had followed up on, but I can circle back. end music is My Future by Billie Eilish Helen Palmer Type 3 with Alabel <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " > photo by Sarah Bork
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EPISODE 38 - Helen Palmer Type 3
My friend Griff Martin joins me to talk about Helen Palmer’s chapter on Type 3end song is “Flames” by David Guetta and Sia Helen Palmer Type 3 - 2:23:23, 2.56 PM <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " >
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EPISODE 37 - Helen Palmer Type 2
mentor and master Enneagram teacher Suzanne Stabile joins me in discussing Helen Palmer’s chapter on Type 2podcast cover photo by Inti St Clairend music is “Anyone Who Loves Me” by Charlotte Cardin HelenPalmerType2 - 1:31:23, 4.52 PM <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " >
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EPISODE 36 - Helen Palmer Type 1
Friend and type 1 Eliza Hook joins me in reading and discussing the chapter “Point 1: The Perfectionist” in Helen Palmer’s book “The Enneagram: Understanding Yourself and the Others in Your Life”end music is “Ful Stop” by Radiohead <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " > Helen Palmer Type 1
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EPISODE 35 - Naranjo Ennea-Type 9
Type 9 —Going with the Stream, the passion for comfort, psychological pachydermismEnd music is “Can’t Believe The Way We Flow” by James Blake <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " > Naranjo type 9
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EPISODE 34 - Naranjo Ennea-Type 8
TYPE 8 - Coming on Strong. Spicy! “The over-development of action in the service of struggling in a dangerous world….the impoverishment of tenderness…” End music is “The Distance” by Cake Naranjo8 - 11:19:22, 10.16 AM <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " > Feeling spicy
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EPISODE 33 - Naranjo Ennea-Type 7
Type 7 — Opportunistic Idealism. The rebellious diplomat. The Variety glutton. End music is Peggy Lee singing “Is That All There Is” <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " > <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " > naranjo type 7 10:3:22, 7.53 AM
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EPISODE 32 - Naranjo Ennea-Type 6
Type 6 —The Persecuted Persecutoror we prefer the Problem Solver / Problem SeekerEnd music is Courage to Change by Sia Naranjo Type 6 <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " >
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EPISODE 31 - Naranjo Ennea-Type 5
Type 5 — Seeking Wholeness Through Isolation. End Music is Solitary Daughter by Bedouine Naranjo type 5 podcast.m4a <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " >
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EPISODE 30 - Naranjo Ennea-Type 4
Type 4 — Seeking Happiness Through PainIntro music is “Constant Craving” by K.D. Lang and out music is “Total Eclipse of the Heart” by Bonnie Tyler Naranjo Type 4 <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " >
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EPISODE 29 - Naranjo Ennea-Type 3
We discuss Type 3 and Chapter 3 of Claudio Naranjo’s book Ennea-Type Structures. Naranjo titles this chapter “Success through Appearances” We liked his use of the word “simulator.” And we liked his very succinct phrase “substitution of appearance for self.” Out music is “Adaptive Behavior” by by Jay DenhamI used the word “guru” facetiously in referring to Sam Harris and my great pleasure in using his app “Waking Up.” I love that man. Naranjo Type 3 <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " >
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EPISODE 28 - Naranjo Ennea-Type 2
Ennea-Type 2 Egocentric GenerosityEnd music is “Save Myself” by Ed Sheeran <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " > <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " > Naranjo Type 2 - 6:18:22, 4.00 PM
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EPISODE 27 - Naranjo Ennea-Type 1
Ennea-Type 1 The Master of VirtueThe episode begins with Leigh quoting Rumi and a bit later she reads from Martha Beck’s The Way of Integrity. Later I reference a 1 character (Miles) in the book The Candy House by Jennifer EganEnd music is “United by Grief” by Kendrick Lamar <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " > Portrait of my 1 friend Carl Stuart that I did in 2018 Naranjo Enneatype 1 - Master of Virtue Listen to the second question on this video for Brene’s comments on perfectionism
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EPISODE 26 - Naranjo Ennea-Type Structures book study
Claudio Naranjo's Ennea-Types book study, the foreword Austin Enneagram Leigh and Elizabeth begin a book study of Claudio Naranjo’s book Ennea-Type Structures. This episode covers the foreword by E.J. Gold and Naranjo’s foreword. Music is “Looking for Love” by Chromatics <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " >
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EPISODE 25 - Enneagram Type 3 Subtypes
My daughter is home for spring break and joins us as a self pres 3, the counter type. A very hard number to type. My dear friend Sarita, a sexual 3, zooms in from Oahu. Listen to her soulful and grounding music!!! And my friend Lisa Reile, a social 3 who can make anything happen beautifully and fast, took time out of SXSW madness to record this with us. Song at the end is “Grace Kelly” by Mika. I hope this helps you. Please reach out to us with questions and comments. And please share! Enneagram 3 Subtypes <figure class=" sqs-block-image-figure intrinsic " >
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Episode 24 - Enneagram Type 9 Subtypes
Our own Leigh Jackson (self pres 9) and friend Austen Juul Hansen (social 9) discuss their instinctual variants. We also discuss sexual 9s. We encourage anyone who is a sexual 9 to reach out to us and tell us your experience. Enneagram Type 9 Subtypes Leigh Jackson, Austen Juul Hansen, Elizabeth Chapin
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EPISODE 23 - Enneagram Type 6 Subtypes
Musician (and childhood friend of Elizabeth) Claire Holley (social 6), dear friend and founder of the epic Ft. Lonesome, Kathie Sever (self pres 6), and musician (and childhood friend of Elizabeth’s daughter) Susannah Joffe (sexual 6) share their insights on how their instincts play out in their number. All three guests are very talented and accomplished artists. It is a joy for us to shine a light on the bravery, exploration and deep creativity of type 6 Enneagram Type 6 Subtypes
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EPISODE 22 - Self Pres and Sexual 4
Hosts Elizabeth Chapin and Leigh Jackson have a conversation with guest and friend George Patton, a self pres four. One take away is that for sexual 4, being seen for who you are lords over the fear of abandonment, and for self pres 4, the fear of abandonment lords over the desire to be seen. If you need a refresher on subtypes and instincts, listen to our episode 19 for an overview of these terms. Conversation with a Self Pres 4
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EPISODE 21 -- Abundance and Scarcity in Your Number
September 20, 2021In this episode hosts Elizabeth Chapin and Leigh Jackson talk about the how the ideas of scarcity and abundance are experienced through the lens of your number EPISODE 21 -- Abundance and Scarcity in your Number Austin Enneagram
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Episode 20 - Enneagram Type 7 Subtypes
In this episode hosts Elizabeth Chapin and Leigh Jackson are joined by guests Elizabeth Pecore(Self-Preservation 7), Ruby Bowman(Sexual 7), and Rachel Lomas(Social 7) to explore the similarities and differences being the same type while also under the influence of each person’s specific dominant Instinct or Subtype. Check out episode 19 to learn more about Instincts in depth and episode 7 to learn more about Type 7.Elizabeth and Leigh have been apprentices of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile. Their goal is to share this practical and transformational tool with others in a way that is narrative, inclusive and accessible. Have a listen to Episode 1-10 if you haven’t, to get an introduction to the 9 types and overview of the Enneagram.Introduction to subtypes and each guestElizabeth Pecore(Self-Preservation 7) - 10:00Ruby Bowman(Sexual 7) - 32:15Rachel Lomas(Social 7) - 46:27Open conversation - 1.03.08austinenneagram.comAustin Enneagram on Instagram
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Episode 19 - Enneagram Instincts - Self Preservation, Sexual, & Social
In this episode podcast hosts Elizabeth Chapin and Leigh Jackson delve into the three Instincts; Self preservation, Sexual, and Social. The goal is balance, awareness, and your relationship with all three, and typically there is one instinct that is more dominant, one more in the middle, and one that is a blind spot. Each Instinct is also broken down into three even more specific zones. By surveying a broad range of teachings and by attempting to integrate their own realizations, challenges, and how they personally relate to this level of work, Elizabeth and Leigh are able to expand and elaborate on this deeper aspect of the Enneagram that is separate from the types.Elizabeth and Leigh have been apprentices of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile. Their goal is to share this practical and transformational tool with others in a way that is narrative, inclusive and accessible. Have a listen to Episode 1-10 if you haven’t, to get an introduction to the 9 types and overview of the Enneagram.An introduction to Instincts and their relative dominanceSelf Preservation specifics and zones - 14:20Sexual specifics and zones - 27:21Social specifics and zones - 44:33Closing comments - 1.00.10Resources Mentionedhttps://enneagrammaine.com/https://www.beatricechestnut.com/https://russhudson.com/austinenneagram.comAustin Enneagram on Instagram
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Episode 18 - Enneagram Virtues
This one-on-one with hosts Elizabeth Chapin and Leigh Jackson goes in depth to explore and help us understand the specific virtue of each Enneagram type. They share and combine perspectives from many resources while relating their own realizations and personal experiences to paint a picture of the higher nature and essence of each type.Elizabeth and Leigh have been apprentices of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile. Their goal is to share this practical and transformational tool with others in a way that is narrative, inclusive and accessible. Have a listen to Episode 1-10 if you haven’t, to get an introduction to the 9 types and overview of the Enneagram.Intro - What are virtues?Type 2 specifics - 09:21Type 3 specifics - 19:46Type 4 specifics - 25:22Type 5 specifics - 32:58 Type 6 specifics - 42:50Type 7 specifics - 52:09Type 8 specifics - 1:02:18Type 9 specifics - 1:08:44Type 1 specifics - 1:17:26austinenneagram.comAustin Enneagram on Instagram
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Episode 17 - The Enneagram Type 3 Phenomenon of Mistyping
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Episode 16 - The Enneagram 3/6/9 Primary Triangle
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Episode 15 - The Enneagram Dependent Stance - Types 1-2-6
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Episode 14 - The Enneagram Aggressive Stance - Types 3-7-8
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Episode 13 - The Enneagram Withdrawing Stance - Types 4-5-9
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Episode 12 - Coronavirus - The Courageous Enneagram Type 6 and a World in Crisis
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Episode 11 - Self Sabotage and Confirmation Bias In Your Enneagram Number
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Episode 10 - Enneagram Type 1 - The Reformer
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Episode 9 - Enneagram Type 9 - The Peacemaker
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Episode 8 - Enneagram Type 8 - The Challenger
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Elizabeth Chapin of Austin Enneagram and apprentice of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile, introduces the Enneagram personality types
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Austin Enneagram
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