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Default Profitable
by Matt Nettleton
Are you an aspiring entrepreneur or a seasoned business owner looking to sharpen your skills and grow your business? The Default Profitable podcast delivers powerful lessons from real Indianapolis-area business owners who have navigated the ups and downs of starting, running, and scaling their ventures.Join Matt Nettleton and tap into a wealth of knowledge and firsthand experiences, learn to avoid common pitfalls, and stay ahead of industry trends. Whether you’re launching your first venture or optimizing an established one, each episode provides actionable insights and fosters a community of support, helping you achieve sustained, profitable success. https://defaultprofitable.com
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Ep178 The Cabinet That Looked Like a Casket: Chris Boots on Building CJ Boots Casket Company
Chris Boots was building a custom pantry cabinet at his wife's uncle's shop in 1999 when he looked at the top sitting on the cart and thought it kind of looked like a casket. He'd always wanted his own business. He didn't know what business. That cabinet was the seed. He spent nights on the bed flipping through funeral trade magazines while his wife asked what on earth he was doing. He joined the Casket and Funeral Supply Association — he'd later become its president. He bought a CNC router he didn't know how to operate and was halfway through training in Atlanta before he asked the instructor what the machine actually looked like. Chris walked into the casket industry right as cremation rates climbed from 20% to 70% and the number of casket companies collapsed from hundreds to fifteen. He built CJ Boots Casket Company anyway, going after the high-end Marcellus niche that conglomerate buyouts had cut off from independent funeral homes. Twenty-one years later he sold it, ran it through COVID for the new owners, tried Florida real estate, and landed in commercial insurance after a chance conversation on Lido Beach with a guy who happened to insure the same trade association Chris used to run. His advice for day one of any new business: understand cash flow before anything else. His motto for the rest of it: don't be afraid to go out on a limb, because that's where the fruit is. Learn more about Chris Boots and his commercial insurance practice at https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-boots-2990735/. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep177 The Parking Lot Decision: David and Christina Reynolds of Reynolds Electric
David Reynolds and his sister Christina Reynolds-Grisby spent more than 25 years at the same electrical contracting company. The plan was always to buy it. They'd consulted with the bank, drawn up the legal work, and lined up the transfer of ownership. The morning the deal was supposed to close in 2023, they walked in and got introduced to the new owners. A private equity firm had bought it out from under them. They decided to start Reynolds Electric standing in the parking lot that same morning. Three years later, they're a residential and light commercial electrical contractor in Indianapolis, an authorized Generac and Kohler dealer, with techs in the field and an office staff behind them. In this conversation, David and Christina get into what 25 years as employees doesn't prepare you for. Picking a business structure. Finding a CPA. Building a brand from scratch. Christina spent six months on the van wrap. Her hair wasn't right, the shoes weren't sitting where she wanted them, the caricature head kept changing size. Her advice for any new founder is progress over perfection. She'll be the first to admit she didn't take it. The takeaway Matt pulls out of the episode comes in two parts. Start it sooner than you think you want to. And if you're negotiating a business takeover with somebody you've trusted for two and a half decades, get it in writing anyway. Learn more about David Reynolds, Christina Reynolds-Grisby, and Reynolds Electric at https://powerbyreynolds.com. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep176 After 90 Years, Don't Screw It Up: Will Steck on Taking Over a Fourth-Generation Family Business
Will Steck and his sister both started at Winthrop Supply on the same day in 2009, sweeping warehouse floors and loading trucks. Eleven years later, they bought the business from their dad. Winthrop is a fourth-generation Indianapolis plumbing supply company started in 1939, and also happens to be the longest-running Rheem distributor in the country. In this conversation, Will talks about the three years he and his sister spent modernizing the ERP before they owned a single share, the moment their father asked if they were in or if he should find a buyer, and the biggest lesson he'd go back and tell himself: stop trying to clone yourself. Find what your people are good at and let them do that. Learn more about Will Steck and Winthrop Supply at https://www.winthropsupply.com. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep175 From IT Struggle to Sustainable Success: Lessons from a Family-Owned MSP Relaunch
Matt sits down with David Kusch, co-owner of Technic Consulting, a family-run IT managed services provider serving small to mid-sized businesses in Indianapolis. David shares his raw journey—from launching in 2001 with nothing but technical skills and hope, to seven years of hourly billing struggles, selling the business, and a smarter 2012 relaunch built on fixed-fee subscriptions, standardized systems, and proactive support. Listeners will gain practical insights on avoiding the classic “technician trap,” building repeatable processes like a franchise, securing savings and a real plan before going full-time, and why sales and networking matter even more than you think. Plus, a timely look at how AI is reshaping cybersecurity threats and client training. Learn more about David Kusch and Technic Consulting at https://tchelps.com/. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep174 From Travel Turmoil to Successful Alignment: Krystal Eicher's Real-Talk Business Journey
From Travel Turmoil to Aligned Success: Krystal Eicher's Real-Talk Business Journey Dive into this candid conversation on the Default Profitable Podcast as host Matt Nettleton sits down with Krystal Eicher, co-founder of Serendipitous Rebel, to unpack her resilient path from a pandemic-crushed travel business to building a thriving coaching and consulting firm that empowers online entrepreneurs—especially coaches and service providers—to launch with strategy, avoid burnout, and design businesses that truly support their lives. Expect raw lessons on cash flow realities, the coaching vs. consulting divide, why "more" isn't always better, and the power of prioritizing life alignment alongside profitability—perfect for aspiring founders and established leaders craving sustainable growth without the hustle. Listeners will walk away inspired with practical insights on resilience, smart investments in expertise, and redefining success on your own terms. Learn more about Krystal Eicher and Serendipitous Rebel at https://www.linkedin.com/in/krystal-eicher. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep173 The Hidden Startup Killer – Lessons from a Former E-com Founder Turned CFO with Nate Littlewood
Host Matt Nettleton sits down with Nate Littlewood of Future Ready CFO, a former Wall Street investment banker who built (and exited) his own e-commerce business before becoming the go-to fractional CFO for consumer product and online brands. Nate pulls back the curtain on why so many founders stay in denial or overwhelm when it comes to their finances, how he uses historical numbers to help entrepreneurs confidently plan and scale without burnout, and the mindset shift that separates stressful businesses from predictably profitable ones. Whether you’re an aspiring founder still hunting product-market fit or already running a seven-figure brand, you’ll walk away with clarity on when (and why) to bring in real financial expertise, the critical role of unit economics before scaling, and why doubling down on your actual strengths can be the most impactful decision you make as an entrepreneur. Learn more about Nate Littlewood and Future Ready CFO at https://futurereadycfo.com. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform. Takeaways Founders often live in financial denial because the numbers tell a different story than the one they want to believe about their mission-driven business. Understanding unit economics and building a basic cash flow forecast is enough financial work for early-stage founders still searching for product-market fit. You cannot finance your way out of a bad product—product-market fit must come before hiring a fractional CFO or heavy financial modeling. Historical financials are the foundation for future planning; clean books today unlock better strategic decisions tomorrow. Many founders struggle most with customer-facing skills like marketing and sales, not the numbers side of the business. Realizing your customers see your “impactful” product as a novelty gift can be demoralizing and signal it’s time to pivot. Every business is either product-push (build it and find buyers) or customer-pull (solve problems for a specific audience)—knowing which you are changes your entire growth playbook. Bringing finances from an afterthought to a strategic co-pilot dramatically reduces founder stress and accelerates profitable growth. Focus on the one or two things you’re exceptionally good at and enjoy; outsource or avoid the rest to create more impact and legacy. Chapters 00:00 Welcome to Default Profitable and Introducing Nate Littlewood 00:46 Nate’s Journey: Wall Street to E-commerce Founder to Fractional CFO 03:05 Why Nate Left High-Finance for Entrepreneurship and Purpose 05:32 Surprises of Running an E-commerce Business Despite Finance Background 08:02 The Demoralizing Moment: Realizing Customers Saw Products as Stocking Stuffers 10:48 Navigating the COVID Boom and Eventual Exit from E-commerce 12:09 The Founder Financial Spectrum: Denial → Overwhelm → Intrigue → Enlightenment 16:00 Using Past Numbers to Shape Future Strategy (Not Just Tax Compliance) 17:27 When to Hire a Fractional CFO – The Product-Market Fit Threshold 21:26 Product-Push vs Customer-Pull: Which Type of Business Are You? 23:58 How to Connect with Nate and Access Free Resources
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Ep172 Why Financial Discipline Matters More Than Talent: Ryan Schwartz on Bootstrapping a Sustainable Window Business
Ryan Schwartz shares the unfiltered story of building Fenster Components—a niche manufacturer of wood window repair parts and replacement sashes—into a 25-year, nationwide, almost-entirely-online business that helps homeowners avoid costly full-window replacements. From spotting an opportunity in rotting clad-wood windows during his warranty job days, to surviving the 2008 housing crash, selling off service/install sides to focus on manufacturing, and shifting to e-commerce in 2013, Ryan delivers grounded lessons on profitability, perseverance, and why “being good at the work” is very different from running a profitable company. Listeners walk away with clarity on managing cash flow like your life depends on it, adapting to generational shifts in teams, the real weight of being responsible for people’s livelihoods, and why smart financial habits early on matter more than most founders admit. Learn more about Ryan Schwartz and Fenster Components at https://fensterusa.com Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform. Takeaways Managing people—both employees and difficult customers—remains one of the hardest, never-ending parts of owning a business. Being skilled at your craft does not automatically mean you will be skilled at running a profitable, sustainable business. Early financial discipline (living below your means even in good years) is the single biggest regret many long-term founders carry. Generational differences in what makes employees feel valued have shifted dramatically—today’s teams often want experiences, camaraderie, and flexibility more than traditional perks. Perseverance through ugly economic storms separates businesses that survive 25 years from those that don’t. Niche focus combined with solving a painful, underserved problem (expensive full-window replacements) can create lasting competitive advantage with little direct competition. Transitioning from service/install to pure manufacturing and online sales can unlock scalability and dramatically reduce day-to-day chaos. Owning a business means you are personally responsible for your team’s livelihoods—treat that duty with the seriousness it deserves. No matter how many hard lessons you learn, the challenges never disappear; they simply change shape over time. Chapters 00:00 Welcome & Podcast Intro 00:34 Meeting Ryan & Quick Personal Background 01:54 Fenster Components – What They Actually Make 04:21 Solving the Rotten Sash Problem for Homeowners 05:14 The Origin Story – From College Entrepreneur to Warranty Wake-Up Call 07:34 Launching in 2000 & Early Window Repair Growth 09:46 Surviving 2008, Buying a Shop, Splitting the Company in 2012 11:38 Going All-In on Manufacturing & Online Sales (2013 Pivot) 14:58 Hardest Ongoing Lesson: Managing People & Generational Shifts 19:29 Blunt Advice for Anyone Thinking About Quitting Their Job to Start a Business 23:52 What 2026 Ryan Would Tell 2001 Ryan the Night Before Launch 27:48 Where to Learn More & Wrap-Up
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Ep171 Thomas Cox: Football to Finance —Building Multiple Revenue Streams & Mastering Money
In this episode of the Default Profitable Podcast, host Matt Nettleton interviews Thomas Cox, who shares his journey from coaching college football to becoming a successful entrepreneur in the food and finance industries. Thomas discusses the importance of having multiple revenue streams, the concept of infinite banking, and his passion for educating others about personal finance. He emphasizes the significance of giving back and setting financial goals that focus on generosity rather than just income. The conversation also touches on the challenges of the insurance business and the importance of networking and building relationships in achieving success. Learn more about Thomas Cox and Cox Capital at https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomascoxco. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform. Takeaways Thomas Cox transitioned from coaching college football to entrepreneurship. He emphasizes the need for multiple revenue streams in business. People often lack understanding of personal finance and money management. The concept of infinite banking is crucial for financial growth. Setting giving goals can be more fulfilling than income goals. Networking and building relationships are key to business success. Understanding the logistics of the insurance business is essential. Meeting with clients regularly is vital for success in finance. Inflows and outflows are necessary for a thriving business. Education and resources are important for understanding infinite banking. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Thomas Cox and His Journey 03:01 Transitioning to Finance and Infinite Banking 06:44 The Importance of Financial Education 10:00 Understanding High W2 Earners and Business Ownership 11:32 Key Strategies for Success in Business 13:39 The Flow of Life: Inflows and Outflows in Business
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Ep170 Health Insurance Strategies for Entrepreneurs: Insights from Matt Allen of Iconic Insurance
Join host Matt Nettleton in a candid conversation with Matt Allen, founder of Iconic Insurance, as they unpack essential health insurance strategies for self-employed entrepreneurs and small business owners. Discover why ditching marketplace plans for personalized coverage with a dedicated agent can slash costs, simplify claims, and provide reliable protection—plus, get motivated by Matt's insights on shifting from scarcity to service, building accountability as a solo founder, and why entrepreneurship offers true security for your family. Whether you're launching a venture or optimizing benefits, this episode delivers actionable tips to stay healthy, focused, and profitable. Learn more about Matt Allen and Iconic Insurance at https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewalleniconichealth. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep169 Building a Profitable Agency with Transparency and Grit: Bill Reynolds of Element 502
In this episode of Default Profitable, host Matt Nettleton chats with Bill Reynolds, founder and president of Element 502, about his unexpected journey from consultant to agency owner through an asset purchase in 2015. Bill shares raw insights on overcoming financial hurdles, earning team buy-in with transparency during tough times, and mastering sales as a non-sales guy—plus why trust is the ultimate currency in marketing and business growth. Aspiring entrepreneurs and leaders will gain motivational strategies for grinding through startup challenges, pricing right, and treating people differently to build lasting profitability without compromising values. Learn more about Bill Reynolds and Element 502 at https://www.linkedin.com/in/bill-reynolds-element502. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep168 Building Resilience: Kelly Sundsvold's Journey from Side Hustle to Thriving Marketing Agency at Gold Bear Media
Join host Matt Nettleton as he chats with Kelly Sundsvold, founder of Gold Bear Media, about launching a full-service marketing agency amid the chaos of 2020. From navigating personal health crises like her husband's paralysis and her own breast cancer diagnosis to turning a necessity-driven side gig into a profitable venture, Kelly shares motivational insights on delegation, hiring experts early, and setting boundaries for sustainable growth. Discover how embracing creativity and relationships can transform challenges into opportunities—perfect for entrepreneurs wondering if they can build a business that fuels both passion and profit. Learn more about Kelly Sundsvold and Gold Bear Media at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellysundsvold. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep167 From Hurricane Ruins to Thriving Restaurant Empire: Ron Ladner of Shaggy's
Discover how Ron Ladner accidentally launched Shaggy's restaurant chain amid Hurricane Katrina's devastation, transforming a small-town spark of hope into a powerhouse brand focused on employee growth and customer happiness. In this motivational episode, Ron shares entrepreneurial insights on building a resilient business culture, investing in your team for long-term loyalty, and prioritizing revenue even in recessions—perfect for founders and leaders dreaming big about profitable ventures. Tune in to uncover how passion and people-first strategies turned cheeseburgers and beer into sustainable success, and gain actionable tips to elevate your own business journey. Learn more about Ron Ladner, Shaggy's and his new book at https://ronladner.com Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep166 From Second Thoughts to Second Chances: Grant Kirsh on Building Families, Businesses and Family Businesses
In this episode of Default Profitable, host Matt Nettleton sits down with Grant Kirsh, managing partner of Kirsh & Kirsh, P.C. to explore the realities of succeeding in a second-generation family business focused on adoption law in Indiana. Grant shares candid insights on leadership transitions, managing family employees, and balancing delegation with hands-on involvement while keeping a proven firm thriving amid competitive challenges. Founders and aspiring leaders will gain motivational takeaways on building a positive culture, staying in your lane, and discovering fulfillment in unexpected career paths—perfect for making profit your default through smart, sustainable strategies. Learn more about Grant Kirsh and Adoption in Indiana at https://indianaadoption.com Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep165 From Elite Athlete to Social Entrepreneur: Tom Hanley's Lessons in Building a Thriving Nonprofit
In this inspiring episode of Default Profitable, host Matt Nettleton chats with Tom Hanley, founder and CEO of Nine13sports, about transforming a life-altering accident into a mission-driven organization that empowers Indianapolis kids through cycling and education. Discover how Tom pivoted from elite cycling to launching a nonprofit that now serves 45,000 students annually, survived the pandemic by innovating into logistics, and grew through community networks and corporate partnerships—offering real-world strategies for aspiring entrepreneurs on resilience, valuing your worth, and turning passion into sustainable impact. Whether you're starting a business or nonprofit, you'll gain motivational insights on bootstrapping, building meaningful relationships, and embracing Indianapolis's unique supportive spirit to create lasting success. Learn more about Tom Hanley and Nine13sports at https://www.linkedin.com/in/thanleyiv. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep164 Jesse Porter of Porter Roofing and Restoration: Building an Empire from the Outside-In.
In this episode of the Default Profitable Podcast, host Matt Nettleton sits down with Jesse Porter, founder of Porter Roofing & Restoration, to unpack his pivot from an accounting degree to building a thriving exterior remodeling business in Indianapolis. Hear how Jesse turned five years of roofing sales experience into his own company amid the 2020 COVID storm, tackling hiring hurdles, cash flow crunches, and rapid growth to 30 employees—while sharing candid lessons on quick decision-making and surrounding yourself with the right team. Aspiring entrepreneurs and business leaders: What if one bold leap could transform your career, and how do you adapt when success hits harder than expected? Learn more about Jesse Porter and Porter Roofing & Restoration at https://www.linkedin.com/company/porterroof. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep163 Matt Hammond, CEO of Hambone's Trivia: Playing Games That Pay Off
In this episode of Default Profitable, host Matt Nettleton chats with Matt Hammond, a former corporate lawyer turned trivia entrepreneur. They dive into Hammond's journey from practicing law at a big firm and running political campaigns to launching Hambone's Trivia back in 2012. The conversation covers how a casual weather app game at a downtown Indy bar sparked it all, growing from free beer gigs to a full-scale business with bar trivia, corporate team-building, fundraisers, themed events, and even gamified employee training for major companies. Have you ever wondered what happens when a high-powered attorney trades suits for trivia nights and turns a hobby into a thriving empire? What does it take to scale from solo hosting at dive bars to managing 75 hosts and landing big corporate clients like Eli Lilly and Salesforce? How do you craft questions that spark reason over rote recall, making games memorable and fun for everyone? And ending on a light note, Hammond recalls starting out paid in Coors Lights and buffalo wraps—talk about upgrading to cash without the heartburn. Learn more about Matt Hammond and Hambone's Trivia at https://www.hambonestrivia.com/about Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep162 Rachel Firestone Mohammad on Pivoting Through Pandemics and Building a Beloved Bistro
In this episode of Default Profitable, host Matt Nettleton sits down with Rachel Firestone Mohammad, co-owner of 9th Street Bistro in Noblesville, to explore the real strategies behind launching and sustaining a profitable restaurant—from pivoting during the pandemic to building deep community connections. Discover how embracing flexibility, prioritizing staff well-being, and staying true to your passion can turn unexpected challenges into long-term success, whether you're an aspiring entrepreneur or seasoned business leader. Tune in for motivational insights on organic growth, market adaptation, and why starting small often leads to big wins in the competitive world of hospitality. Learn more about Rachel Firestone Mohammad and 9th Street Bistro at https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-firestone-12117040. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep161 Chanda Coston, Business Strategist and CEO of Chanda Co.: From Navy Vet to No-Burnout Boss Babe
In this episode we chat with Chanda Coston, a Navy vet turned business strategist who's all about helping women over 40 ditch the chaos and build businesses that actually fit their lives—think structure meets soul, with programs like Build to Blueprint and The Momentum Mastery Collective. Have you ever wondered if it's too late to pivot after the kids are (mostly) grown? What does it take to swap a steady government gig for coaching that lights you up? And how do you set boundaries so you're strategizing, not therapizing? Chanda shares her journey from military discipline to nonprofit healing after tragedy, all while juggling five adult kids, four grandbabies, and globe-trotting adventures—proving gray hair just means smarter shortcuts. Learn more about Chanda Coston and Chanda Co. at https://www.linkedin.com/in/chandacoston and https://www.chanda-co.com/ Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep160 Dave Gulas, President and Co-Founder of EZDC 3PL: From Pharma Hustle to Logistics Grind – Why Sales is Your Real Lifeline
In this episode of Default Profitable, We sit down with Dave Gulas to unpack his shift from two decades in pharma sales to launching EZDC 3PL, a warehousing and fulfillment powerhouse for e-commerce brands. We dive into the raw realities of starting up – from spotting gaps in customer service to navigating pivots, building an online presence, and why resilience beats any perfect plan when you're bootstrapping a business in a crowded field. Ever wondered what it takes to ditch a stable career and build a logistics outfit from scratch? How landing the "wrong" clients can teach you more than any win? What happens when you overload your team and learn the hard way about capacity? And why prioritizing sales activity is the ultimate game-changer, even when you're at full throttle? Oh, and Dave's got six kids – including five teens in a row – keeping the home front as chaotic as startup life. Learn more about Dave Gulas and EZDC 3PL at https://www.linkedin.com/in/davegulas. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep159 Jim Effner, President & CEO of P2P Group: Why Life Insurance is the Unsung Hero of Family Security
In this episode of Default Profitable, host Matt Nettleton sits down with Jim Effner, a 36-year veteran of the financial services and life insurance industry. Jim shares his journey from building a massive Northwestern Mutual operation with 400 people and five buildings to founding P2P Group, a lean sales training firm laser-focused on boosting productivity in financial services. They dive into the challenges of scaling down, the emotional side of money decisions, and why permanent life insurance deserves a comeback amid industry shifts. Have you ever wondered what it takes to ditch a sprawling empire for a passion-driven venture that actually fulfills you? What if the secret to killer sales isn't technique, but a rock-solid belief in caring deeply for each client? And how does spotting emotional money triggers from childhood make or break financial planning? Jim wraps with a humorous nod to his golf game—turns out, even a top producer can only hack so many rounds before needing a real purpose. Learn more about Jim Effner and P2P Group at https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimeffner. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep158 Mikkel Thorup, CEO of ExpatMoney: Dropping Out and the Secret Path to Offshore Millions
Welcome aboard another episode of Default Profitable, where we get real about the strategies that turn businesses into consistent cash machines. This time, I sat down with Mikkel Thorup, the expat expert who's bootstrapped his way from a tough school experience to running a 32-person team at ExpatMoney.com. We dive into his wild backstory—getting labeled with a learning disability as a kid, ditching public education early, and turning global travels into a powerhouse consulting firm that helps high-net-worth folks with offshore taxes, immigration, investments, and more. It's all about spotting market gaps, outsourcing everything but your genius, and making profitable your everyday reality. Have you ever wondered what happens when a "special school" kid flips the script on the system and builds an empire without a single loan or investor? What does it take to circumnavigate the globe 400 times, live in nine countries, and consult ultra-wealthy clients on dodging stress while going offshore? How do you bootstrap a business from solo hustler to a team of 32, all while outsourcing cooking, cleaning, and driving to focus on family and flow? And speaking of family, Mikkel's got four kids (with a fifth on the way) and still crushes 10-hour workdays—turns out, that dyslexia his teachers called a brain glitch is now his superpower for hyper-focus, leaving him billing at $1,200 an hour without burning out. Learn more about Mikkel Thorup and ExpatMoney.com at https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikkelthorup. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep157 Danny Bobrow, Dental Marketing Expert and Founder of Climb for a Cause: Swapping Boss Headaches for Your Own Empire
Hey folks, buckle up for a no-nonsense chat with Danny Bobrow, who's turned a string of "you're fired" moments into a powerhouse career helping dentists crush it in marketing and beyond. We dive into his wild ride starting back in '89, when dental marketing was basically a swear word, and how he built a niche empire by spotting what pros really needed—solid leads, killer phone skills, and a bigger purpose like linking oral health to overall wellness. From ditching the corporate grind to founding game-changers like the American Academy for Oral Systemic Health and his Climb for a Cause foundation, Danny lays out the real talk on staying profitable while making a difference that sticks. Have you ever wondered what flips the switch from unemployable hot mess to unstoppable entrepreneur? What does it take to spot a goldmine niche like dental marketing and scale it from label-pushing to full-blown consultancy? Or how mastering the art of first impressions on the phone can quadruple your ROI without dropping extra cash? Danny breaks it down, sharing how aligning your hustle with a mission bigger than bucks—like boosting public health or volunteering overseas—keeps you fired up and clients loyal. And get this: the guy's an adventure athlete who's summited peaks worldwide, proving that putting one foot in front of the other works just as well in business as it does on a mountain—though he admits his early office was a dining room table, dodging eviction notices like a pro. Learn more about Danny Bobrow and Climb for a Cause at https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannybobrow. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep 156 Mark Shriner, CEO of Breeze Docs: From Corporate Waves to Startup Winds
Dive into this episode of Default Profitable where I chat with Mark Shriner, a globe-trotting entrepreneur who's turned his Asia-Pacific expertise into a thriving consulting gig and now leads Breeze Docs, an AI-powered platform that's revolutionizing how businesses tackle RFPs and security questionnaires. We cover everything from his wild ride building businesses across Asia to the hard-knock lessons of going solo, like pricing your worth and ditching the squirrels for bigger game. It's a no-BS look at what it takes to shift from corporate home runs to owning your own scoreboard, all while Mark shares tales from his sailboat office during San Francisco tech week. Have you ever wondered what it feels like to 5X a company's revenue in Asia, only to watch new owners shrug it off and leave you starting from scratch? What does it take to juggle solopreneur chaos, from chief everything officer duties to realizing you're underpricing your genius? And how do you spot the elephant clients that pay off without the Nordstrom-level risks that could sink your ship? Mark breaks it down with real talk on focusing your strengths, saying no to distractions, and building long-term fractional roles that keep the feathers out of your chicken dinners. Fun fact: This guy's so committed to efficiency, he sailed 800 miles just to avoid a boring hotel stay—talk about breezing through life! Learn more about Mark Shriner and Breeze Docs at https://www.linkedin.com/in/markshriner. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep 155 Azgari Lipshy: Serial Entrepreneur and Founder of Azgari: Serial Entrepreneur Launching Service Based Businesses in 90 days
Have you ever wondered what it's like to bootstrap a supplement line as a kid, then pivot to lingerie exports and construction gigs? What does it take to bounce back from near-bankruptcies and turn those lessons into an 8-phase blueprint that guarantees launches in 120 days? How can you snag SBA loans, nail competitive edges, and start cash-positive with pre-booked clients? And hey, Azgari's got that squirrel brain from her dad, starting male enhancement products because, well, sometimes you gotta energize the market – literally! In this episode, we meet Azgari Lipshy, a true serial entrepreneur who's been hustling since she was 16, jumping from supplement manufacturing and garment exports to running two construction companies today. We get into her wild ride of building and exiting businesses, the big mistakes that shaped her, and how she's turned all that into a passion for guiding aspiring founders through a streamlined system to launch profitable service-based ventures without the usual chaos. It's all about smart strategies, from validating ideas to scaling with teams and tech, making sure profit isn't some random win but your everyday reality. Learn more about Azgari Lipshy and Azgari at https://www.linkedin.com/in/azgari-lipshy. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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EP 153 George Turkette, Founder of Turchetti's on Starting a Successful Salumeria
In this episode of Default Profitable, Matt sits down with George Turkette, the guy behind Turchetti's, Indy's own USDA-certified wholesale salumeria cranking out top-notch charcuterie. We get into his wild ride from being a broke line cook in downtown restaurants to accidentally launching a business after a chance meeting – maybe with a little wine involved. George opens up about ditching the restaurant grind, navigating heavy regulations in meat processing, and the hard lessons on scaling up without losing your sanity or passion along the way. Ever wondered how a broken collarbone could kickstart a salami empire? What does it take to pivot from chef life to full-on entrepreneur, especially when you're winging it at 25? How do you learn to delegate so you're not drowning in a thousand daily questions, and why's it crucial to double your startup cash expectations? And get this – George admits his early decisions were more about Instagram likes than solid business strategy, but hey, live and learn, right? Interrested in investing in Turchetti's Meats? https://wefunder.com/turchettis.salumeria Learn more about George Turkette and Turchetti's at https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgeturkette. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep 153 Jason Barnaby, Founder of Firestarters Inc.: Igniting Your Passion Ain’t Easy, But It’s Worth It
What does it take to turn your passion into a thriving business? In this episode of the Default Profitable podcast, host Matt Nettleton sits down with Jason Barnaby, the dynamic founder of Firestarters Inc., to explore the rollercoaster journey of entrepreneurship. From his days as a ski bum in Colorado to running a coffee shop in Poland and founding a business fueled by his love for sales and people development, Jason shares the gritty realities of starting and growing a passion-driven business. They dive into navigating failure, embracing authenticity, and the emotional highs and lows of going it alone, all while keeping it real with Matt’s signature blend of humor and heart. Have you ever wondered what it feels like to lose your corporate job and leap into the unknown? Or how to separate your personal worth from your business’s success? Jason tackles these questions with raw honesty, recounting how his daughter’s blunt question about his job sparked a life-changing pivot. He shares hard-won lessons on resilience, the power of community, and why you should never get complacent when things are going well. Fun fact: Jason’s brief stint as a coffee shop owner in Poland was such a disaster, he jokingly calls it a masterclass in what not to do—but it taught him failure is just an event, not who you are. Learn more about Jason Barnaby and Firestarters Inc. at https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonbarnaby/. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep 152 Matt Hunckler, Founder of Powderkeg: Accidental Communities That Spark Real Business Fireworks
In this episode of the Default Profitable Podcast, I sit down with Matt Hunckler, a serial entrepreneur who's turned bruises and breakthroughs into a thriving tech community powerhouse. We dive into his journey from digitizing vinyl records in high school to founding Powderkeg, chatting about the gritty realities of starting service businesses, navigating pivots, and scaling tech ecosystems right here in Indiana. It's all about those early hustles, community-driven growth, and the hard lessons that come from serving others before chasing profits—perfect for anyone grinding through their own business adventures. Have you ever wondered what happens when a casual beer meetup explodes into a nationwide tech network? What does it take to pivot from free advice in your inbox to a membership model that actually pays the bills? And how do you know when to zoom in on talent matching during a pandemic or double down on peer groups for CEOs hungry for real talk? Matt shares it all, wrapping up with a funny nod to his reluctant start—turns out, getting conned into community organizing at Binkley's bar was the best "mistake" he never planned. Learn more about Matt Hunckler and Powderkeg at https://www.linkedin.com/in/hunckler. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep 151 Lessons Learned From The First 150 Episodes (and What Comes Next)
Matt Nettleton, Host of Default Profitable: Bootstrapped Businesses Don't Need a Plan—Just Guts and Adjustments In this milestone episode of Default Profitable, host Matt Nettleton takes a solo dive into the podcast's journey after 150 episodes, reflecting on the raw realities of bootstrapped businesses. Drawing from interviews with 143 Indianapolis entrepreneurs—from a lasagna chef turned commercial kitchen owner to a freight giant with 800 employees—Matt highlights the consistent themes of resourcefulness, trial-by-fire decisions, and the myth-busting truth that most successful ventures start without perfect plans or deep pockets. He announces an exciting pivot: expanding guest invites beyond Indy to any bootstrapped business owner nationwide, focusing on revenue-generating stories that impact economies, employees, and markets, while keeping episodes punchy at 20 minutes. Have you ever wondered why bootstrapped founders thrive on scarcity while funded ones often flounder in bad choices? What does it take to launch without six months' savings, a flawless strategy, or even a clear grasp of what clients actually want to buy? Ever pondered how 143 real-world entrepreneurs ditched the internet checklists, embraced worthless plans that taught invaluable lessons, and pivoted from selling what they loved to what pays the bills? And why does understanding your market mean realizing your passions might not match buyer needs? M Learn more about Matt Nettleton at https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattnettleton. Listen to more Bootstrap Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep150 Ashley Beck Cuellar, Founder of Sales Spark: I Thought Everyone Had a Sales Coach
In this episode of Default Profitable, I sit down with Ashley Beck Cuellar, a sales powerhouse who's traded 17 years of slinging automotive direct mail for building her own coaching empire. We dive into the wild ride of leaving a cushy gig at Perk Marketing, the eye-opening realities of entrepreneurship, and why having an outside sales coach isn't just nice—it's a game-changer for ditching robotic pitches and selling like a real human. From outbound hustles to leveraging LinkedIn like a pro, Ashley shares the gritty details on starting, growing, and managing a sales training business without all the fluff. Have you ever wondered why everyone assumes sales pros come with built-in coaches, only to find out most are flying solo? What does it take to bootstrap a full-cycle sales training outfit after feeding a software startup beast for years? Ever pondered how dropping flyers at local businesses or tapping "best places to work" lists can snag your first clients? And why does selling yourself feel like straight-up narcissism when you're killer at hawking everyone else's stuff? Learn more about Ashley Beck Cuellar and Sales Spark at https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashley-beck-cuellar. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep149 Mike Hurley, Founder of WarmUp: Pivoting from SaaS Sorrow to Agency Success
In this episode of Default Profitable, I sit down with Mike Hurley, a lifelong Indianapolis resident who's turned his sales and marketing savvy into a thriving digital agency called WarmUp. We dive into his journey from side hustle to full-time venture, including the tough pivot after losing a co-founder during COVID, and how he's navigated the wild ride of entrepreneurship—balancing failures, funding, and finding profitability in a market that's got agencies on the ropes. Ever wondered what it takes to ditch the corporate paycheck for the chaos of building your own biz, only to reinvent it mid-stream after tragedy strikes? Or how slowing down to craft killer checklists can save your sanity and scale your operations? What kind of grit turns a B2B SaaS flop into a go-to-market engineering powerhouse that's cashflow positive today? Mike shares it all, wrapping up with a humorous nod to his early days raising a "fart in the wind" round from friends and family—proof that even small bets can lead to big wins if you're willing to learn fast. Learn more about Mike Hurley and WarmUp at https://www.linkedin.com/in/warmupmike. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep148 Josh Brammer, Founder of Lantern: Don't Feed the Growth Monster – Or It'll Devour Your Dreams
In this episode of Default Profitable, host Matt Nettleton chats with Josh Brammer, a seasoned marketing veteran turned business coach, about the gritty realities of starting, running, and scaling creative businesses. Drawing from his experience managing four agencies, selling one, and now guiding solopreneurs through Lantern, Josh shares candid insights on entrepreneurial pitfalls, the importance of clarity over vague ideas, and why focus trumps endless growth. Topics range from pivoting after an agency exit amid AI disruptions to translating skills like video editing and youth pastoring into business empathy, all while emphasizing profitable problem-solving over ego-driven ventures. Have you ever wondered if your "brilliant" business idea is really just an entrepreneurial seizure waiting to flop? What does it take to pivot from agency life to coaching without accidentally restarting a consulting grind? And what kind of founder realizes that feeding the growth monster with random projects leads to a bloated, insatiable beast? Josh unpacks these with humor, revealing how his youth pastor days taught him to sell tough concepts—like a Jewish carpenter to skeptical seventh graders—better than any sales pitch. Learn more about Josh Brammer and Lantern at https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuabrammer. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep147 Chris Theisen, Founder of Bullpen Consulting: From Layoff Strikeouts to Solopreneur Home Runs
In this episode of the Default Profitable Podcast, host Matt Nettleton chats with longtime acquaintance Chris Theisen about the rollercoaster of building a marketing business in Indianapolis. They dive into Chris's 15-year evolution from social and digital marketing roles to founding Bullpen Consulting in early 2024, sparked by a corporate layoff. Key topics include navigating the shift from employee to owner, blending sales strategies with marketing tech, the pitfalls of solopreneurship, and practical advice for aspiring entrepreneurs on positioning, pipeline building, and validating offers that clients actually want to buy. Have you ever wondered what it takes to turn repeated layoffs into a thriving solo venture, especially in the ever-shifting world of marketing technology? What kind of mindset shift is needed to prioritize client needs over personal passions when crafting your business offer? How do you avoid the trap of overcommitting to delivery work while neglecting sales pipelines that keep the revenue flowing? And what lessons from co-owning a digital agency during COVID can prevent first-time founders from bashing their heads against unsellable strategies? On a lighter note, Chris shares the heartwarming trivia that his daughter, who had her pancreas removed at age three due to rare acute pancreatitis, tricked her liver into producing insulin and enjoyed eight insulin-free years of just being a kid—complete with way too much eating and zero baths missed. Learn more about Chris Theisen and Bullpen Consulting at https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisjtheisen. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep146 Patrick O'Donnell, Outsourced VP of Sales at Sales Xceleration and Co-Owner of Barringer's Tavern: From Corporate Comfort to Entrepreneurial Chaos
In this episode of Default Profitable, host Matt Nettleton chats with Patrick O'Donnell, a serial entrepreneur who traded a stable corporate career in sales leadership for the unpredictable world of small business ownership. Patrick opens up about his transition from large public companies to launching a fractional sales leadership practice with Sales Xceleration in 2018 and co-owning Barringer's Tavern, a historic spot in South Indianapolis, since 2019. The discussion dives into the mindset shifts required for entrepreneurship, the challenges of juggling multiple ventures, navigating COVID disruptions, and the hard-won lessons from building sales pipelines while managing restaurant operations—all while prioritizing family life in Indianapolis. Have you ever wondered what hidden skills atrophy after years in corporate America, like realizing no one's delivering your stapler anymore? What does it take to shift from a structured 9-to-5 to the all-encompassing entrepreneurial lifestyle, where delegating turns into doing it all yourself? How do you balance the passion of sales leadership with the gritty realities of restaurant ownership, especially when one feels like a perfect fit and the other... not so much? And what kind of resilience is needed to watch a client struggle to let go of the sales reins, only to see them thrive? Patrick wraps with a humorous self-reflection: after ditching the corporate grind, he often looked in the mirror and congratulated himself on "buying" a full-time job that demands twice the hours for half the security. Learn more about Patrick O'Donnell and Sales Xceleration and Barringer's Tavern at https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickwodonnell. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep145 Chris Wilkey, Professor and Director of the Center for Professional Selling at Ball State University: From DJ Gigs to Sales Mastery – Why Listening Trumps Talking Every Time
In this episode of Default Profitable, host Matt Nettleton chats with Chris Wilkey about the evolution of professional selling, drawing from Chris's eclectic career path that spans software sales, running a digital marketing agency and wedding DJ business, to leading Ball State's Center for Professional Selling. They dive into the misconceptions of sales as mere persuasion, the value of sales education in higher ed, lessons from entrepreneurial missteps, and practical advice for young business owners on adapting plans, scaling operations, and prioritizing customer service to build lasting success. Have you ever wondered why top salespeople succeed by asking questions rather than pushing products? What does it take to turn a flawed business plan into a thriving venture through active listening and quick pivots? What kind of resilience is needed to learn from failures like undervaluing services or niching down to "boring" but profitable industries? Chris wraps up with a humorous nod to his DJ origins, kickstarted when his dad bought him equipment and quipped, "Hire yourself for the school dance – that'll pay for it!" Learn more about Chris Wilkey and Ball State University's Center for Professional Selling at https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriswilkey. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep144 Daniel Herndon, Brand Strategist and Founder of HRNDN: Your Secret Weapon for Building a Business Empire
In this episode of Default Profitable, host Matt Nettleton chats with Daniel Herndon about the raw realities of launching, pivoting, and scaling a business. From his roots in a touring rock band to becoming a sought-after brand strategist, Daniel shares his journey of turning side hustles into sustainable ventures, emphasizing how charging upfront, embracing uncertainty, and focusing on problem-solving over titles can lead to long-term success. The conversation dives into entrepreneurial myths, the grind of startup life, and the freedom found in narrowing your focus for a balanced, fulfilling career. Have you ever wondered how a rock musician books gigs nationwide and pivots to landing corporate clients with bigger budgets? What does it take to start a business with just $790, no plan, and zero savings – and still thrive 17 years later? Ever pondered why skipping the "rules" like 30-day terms or job creation obsession might accelerate your growth? And what kind of mindset turns agency ownership into solo brand mastery for more life outside the hustle? Fun fact: Daniel's mysterious side includes collecting bourbon – his pick for a solid pour is Maker's Mark Special Select, because who needs rare hunts when tasty and accessible wins? Learn more about Daniel Herndon and HRNDN at https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielherndon. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep143 Shane Nichols, Author of White Collar Prospecting: Say Goodbye to Soul-Crushing Cold Calls
In this episode of Default Profitable, host Matt Nettleton chats with Shane Nichols, a seasoned media sales veteran turned author, about his journey from traditional sales roles in newspapers, magazines, radio, TV, and college sports sponsorships to launching a side hustle based on innovative B2B prospecting strategies. Shane shares how post-COVID challenges at Ball State University inspired him to dive deep into modern marketing tactics, culminating in his book that teaches salespeople to replace grueling cold calls with lead-generating systems. The conversation explores the evolution of sales in a changing landscape, from apathetic fan bases and budget crunches in college athletics to building personal brands on LinkedIn. Have you ever wondered why getting sales appointments feels harder than ever, even with a strong product like NCAA sports sponsorships? What does it take to turn a haphazard cold-calling routine into a streamlined marketing machine that generates 20-25 leads a year? How can direct mail, social media, and lead magnets transform your B2B prospecting from stressful to autopilot? Shane reveals the secrets behind his success at Ball State, where he hit revenue goals by focusing on renewals and upsells after marketing did the heavy lifting. Fun fact: Shane's first big lead at Ball State was from a ketchup company inquiring about sponsorships—because who knew condiments and Cardinals basketball were a match made in heaven? Learn more about Shane Nichols at https://www.linkedin.com/in/shaneb2bleadgenerator. Listen to more Indianapolis Business Leaders at https://defaultprofitable.com or subscribe to Default Profitable on your favorite podcast platform.
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Ep142 Eric Dunaway, Assistant Professor of Economics at Wabash College
Join host Matt Nettleton as he sits down with Eric Dunaway, an assistant professor of economics at Wabash College. They delve into the unique approach Wabash takes towards business education, emphasizing real-world experience over traditional classroom learning. Eric shares insights on the importance of critical thinking, the role of randomness in decision-making, and how poker can teach valuable business lessons. Key Topics: The unconventional business program at Wabash College The value of learning through experience How poker and sports betting relate to business strategies The importance of critical thinking and adaptability in business Recommended reads for aspiring entrepreneurs: "Thinking in Bets" by Annie Duke and "Fooled by Randomness" by Nassim Nicholas Taleb You can learn more about Eric on linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-dunaway-08b23636b/
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Ep141 Andrew Johnson, Owner Northbrook Brewing
Join host Matt Nettleton as he sits down with Andrew Johnson, co-founder of Northbrook Brewing in Arcadia, Indiana. Discover the inspiring journey of how Andrew transitioned from a special education teacher to a successful brewery owner. Learn about the challenges, triumphs, and lessons learned along the way. Key Highlights: Andrew's background and the founding of Northbrook Brewing. The evolution of their business plan and adapting to market changes. Insights into the financial and operational challenges of running a brewery. The importance of community and customer engagement. Advice for aspiring business owners. Book a reservation at Northbrook here https://www.yelp.com/biz/northbrook-brewing-company-arcadia You can learn more about Andrew on linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-johnson-b7858a38/ or his brewery website https://northbrookbrewing.com/
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Ep140 Andrea Liebross, Author "She Thinks Big", Life Coach and Podcast Host
In this episode of the Default Profitable Podcast, host Matt Nettleton sits down with Andrea Liebross to explore the intricacies of starting and growing a small business. Andrea shares her journey from corporate life to entrepreneurship, emphasizing the importance of mindset, planning, and support systems. Key Takeaways: The significance of integrating business into life and the challenges of the "messy middle." The role of mindset and systems in business success. The importance of having a support system and not going it alone. Insights on managing time and making confident decisions. You can learn more about Andrea on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-liebross/ or her website https://www.andrealiebross.com/
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Ep139 Andrea Simpson, Co-Founder of Orangily
In this episode of the Default Profitable Podcast, host Matt Nettleton sits down with Andrea Simpson, co-founder of Orngeli, a wellness bottle shop and community space. Andrea shares her journey of starting a specialty business with her sister, the challenges and successes they've faced, and the importance of building relationships in entrepreneurship. The inspiration behind Orangily and its rebranding journey. The impact of going alcohol-free on Andrea's life and business. Insights into the growing trend of alcohol-free beverages and zebra striping. The importance of community and customer experience in retail. Advice for aspiring entrepreneurs on starting a business and maintaining resilience. You can find more information about Andrea on linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreamarley/ or on her company's website orangily.com
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Ep138 Derek Hammer CEO of The Hammer Companies
In this episode host Matt Nettleton talks with Derek Hammer, CEO of the Hammer Companies, to discuss the journey of starting and growing multiple businesses. From the inception of Hammer Lighting and Grip to the challenges faced during the pandemic, Derek shares insights on entrepreneurship, the importance of having a business plan, and the value of a supportive team. Key Points: Derek's transition from video production to business ownership. The story behind each of Derek's four brands. Navigating the challenges of the 2008 recession and the COVID-19 pandemic. The importance of having a business plan and understanding your market. The role of a business coach in Derek's journey. You can learn more about Derek on LinedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-hammer-b420691/ or his company website https://www.hammermetalwerks.com/ Subscribe to the Default Profitable podcast on your favorite podcast platform or visit http://defaultprofitable.com for 100+ episodes about how Indianapolis businesses get built
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Ep137 Jenn Lisak Golding Founder and CEO Founder and CEO Sapphire Strategy
In this episode host Matt Nettleton interviews Jenn Lisak Golding. Jenn is Founder and CEO of Sapphire Strategy, a digital marketing agency that blends rich data with experienced-back intuition to optimize marketing performance for service-based businesses and nonprofits. An award-winning strategist, Jenn’s developed the Marketing Lifecycle Model: an evidence-based audit tool and blueprint for high-performing marketing investments. This model has helped numerous organizations create an effective foundation to optimize their marketing efforts, driving millions of dollars in revenue. She is also a certified Enneagram coach that helps individuals and organizations on their personal and professional growth journeys. You can learn more about Jenn on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennlisak/ or the Sapphire website: https://sapphirestrategy.com/ or Uncovered Gems: https://theuncoveredgems.com/ Jenn also reccomends one book Give and Take by Adam Grant: https://adamgrant.net/book/give-and-take/ Subscribe to the Default Profitable podcast on your favorite podcast platform or visit http://defaultprofitable.com for 100+ episodes about how Indianapolis businesses get built
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Ep136 Darren Cooper Founder and Lead Creative 1898 Creative
In this episode of the Default Profitable Podcast, host Matt Nettleton speaks with Darren Cooper, the founder of 1898 Creative. They discuss Darren's journey from musician to entrepreneur, the challenges of building a creative business, and the importance of mindset and finding a niche in content creation. Darren shares valuable insights on surrounding oneself with the right people, the necessity of a strategic plan, and practical advice for aspiring entrepreneurs. Darren Cooper is the Founder and CEO of 1898 Creative, a story-driven video agency that helps coaches and consultants grow their authority with video. He’s also the creator of the Content Creation Operating System, a done-for-you video strategy system that takes the stress out of showing up online. When he’s not geeking out over storytelling frameworks, he’s wrangling four kids with his wife Lauren—Story, Vinyl, Indiana, and Valor. Yes, those are their real names… and yes, it’s exactly as wild as it sounds. You can find Darren on instagram (@darrenandrewcooper) and/or LinkedIn and learn more about 1898 Creative at 1898creative.com Darren recommend s a few books right now: Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell Vision Driven Leader by Michael Hyatt
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Ep135 Andrew Curtis, President and Founder Fuel VM
In this episode host Matt Nettleton interviews Andrew Curtis. Andrew is president and founder of FUEL VM. He and his company have been leaned on as a marketing leader for such organizations as Boy Scouts of America, Trinity Broadcasting Network and the Indiana State Museum and Historic Sites. He’s a pragmatic marketing mind who embraces both creative talents and technical advancements in equal amounts. He opened FUEL VM in 2003 and has made himself more “unemployable” every day since. You can learn more about Andrew on LinkedIN https://www.linkedin.com/in/fuelvm/ or his company website www.fuelvm.com
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Ep134 Chuck Gillespie Executive Director Executive Director Indiana Association of PHCC
Chuck recommends a few books It's the Manager - Jim Clifton and Jim Harter (any Gallup Book is a must read) The 7 Day Weekend - Ricardo Semler (made me rethink culture) The Growth Delusion - David Pilling (made me realize how what we measure matters) The Boys in the Boat by Daniel James (Just oner of the best inspirational stories and a good movie) You can learn more about Chuck on linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/crgillespie/
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Ep133 Jeff Farren How to Sell a Business
In this episode, host Matt Nettleton and guest Jeff Farren discuss the intricacies of selling a business. They explore the importance of preparing for an exit strategy well in advance, the psychological aspects of letting go of a business, and the necessity of having proper documentation and financial records. The conversation also delves into the risks associated with customer concentration and how to find buyers in a competitive market. Jeff emphasizes the need for business owners to prepare their businesses as valuable assets for potential buyers, ensuring a smooth transition and successful sale. takeaways The best time to prepare for selling a business is 3-5 years in advance. Business owners should document processes to ensure business continuity. Psychological readiness is crucial for owners selling their business. Sales concentration over 10% poses a significant risk to business stability. Having a clear vision for life after selling is essential for owners. Documentation and record-keeping are vital for a successful sale. Understanding your ideal customer profile can help in business growth. Strategic buyers often pay more than financial buyers for businesses. Preparing a business as a valuable asset increases its sale potential. Finding the right advisor can help expose business opportunities in the market. You can learn more about Jeff on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/jefffarren/ or his company website http://www.accretivevalue.com/ to contact Jeff call him 317-513-4016 or send an email [email protected] Subscribe to the Default Profitable podcast on your favorite podcast platform or visit http://defaultprofitable.com for 100+ episodes about how Indianapolis businesses get built
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Ep132 Jeff Farren How to Buy a Business
In this episode, Matt Nettleton and Jeff Farren discuss the intricacies of buying and selling businesses. They explore the motivations behind purchasing a business, the transition from employee to owner, and the importance of financial transparency. Jeff shares insights on identifying good business opportunities, evaluating customer relationships, and understanding the risks associated with sales concentration. The conversation emphasizes the emotional challenges of entrepreneurship and the necessity of clear communication and documentation during the buying process. takeaways The entrepreneurial spirit drives many to consider buying a business. Buying an existing business can provide a strong foundation for growth. Transitioning from employee to business owner requires a significant mindset shift. Stable and predictable cash flows are crucial for business valuation. Financial transparency is essential for successful business transactions. Customer relationships and satisfaction metrics are key to business stability. Sales concentration can pose significant risks to business valuation. Clear expectations and communication are vital when the previous owner stays on post-sale. Entrepreneurship involves emotional and mental resilience. Meeting payroll is a significant stressor for business owners. You can learn more about Jeff on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/jefffarren/ or his company website http://www.accretivevalue.com/ to contact Jeff call him 317-513-4016 or send an email [email protected] Subscribe to the Default Profitable podcast on your favorite podcast platform or visit http://defaultprofitable.com for 100+ episodes about how Indianapolis businesses get built
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Ep131 Ray Mills CEO RM Media
In this episode of the Default Profitable Podcast, host Matt Nettleton interviews Ray Mills, a seasoned video producer and entrepreneur. Ray shares his journey from working in a Christian organization for 20 years to becoming the owner of RM Media, a video production company. He discusses the challenges he faced while transitioning from a stable job to entrepreneurship, the importance of networking and mentorship, and the lessons he learned along the way. Ray emphasizes the significance of making video content in today's digital landscape and encourages aspiring filmmakers to pursue their passions. takeaways Ray Mills transitioned from a 20-year career in a Christian organization to filmmaking. He founded RM Media as a side hustle before going full-time. Networking and mentorship are crucial for success in business. Ray emphasizes the importance of making video content. He wishes he had a business background and a partner when starting. The creative world differs significantly from the business world. Ray encourages aspiring entrepreneurs to start sooner. He learned valuable lessons from his early challenges. Ray's experience highlights the importance of adaptability. He finds satisfaction in helping clients succeed through video. You can connect with Ray on linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/raymills/ or at his company website https://www.raymillsmedia.com/ Subscribe to the Default Profitable podcast on your favorite podcast platform or visit http://defaultprofitable.com for 100+ episodes about how Indianapolis businesses get built
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Ep130 Jen Edds, Head Broad in Charge at Brassy Broadcasting
In this episode of the Default Profitable Podcast, host Matt Nettleton interviews Jen Edds, the head of Brassy Broadcasting Company. They discuss Jen's journey from a corporate job to starting her own podcasting business, the importance of clarity in identifying ideal clients, and the significance of community in the podcasting world. Jen shares valuable insights on navigating the podcasting landscape, feeding souls instead of algorithms, and the importance of networking. As the founder of The Brassy Broadcasting Company, Jen helps business owners craft podcasts that forge relationships. She’s a relentless experimenter, a passionate educator, and a firm believer that the best podcasts aren’t just heard—they’re felt. Jen had a couple of book recommendations, The Practice: Shipping Creative Work by Seth Godin and Happiness Become You: A Guide to Changing Your Life for Good by Tina Turner Here are some ways to connect with Jen Website: https://brassybroad.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-edds-470351b/ Instagram: @brassybroadjen https://www.instagram.com/brassybroadjen/?hl=en YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/BrassyBroadJen Subscribe to the Default Profitable podcast on your favorite podcast platform or visit http://defaultprofitable.com for 100+ episodes about how Indianapolis businesses get built
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Ep129 Michael Salemi, Co Owner, Colored Threads
In this episode of the Default Profitable Podcast, host Matt Nettleton speaks with Michael Salemi, co-owner of Colored Threads, about his journey from corporate America to entrepreneurship. Michael shares insights on the challenges of starting a business, the importance of patience, and the evolution of their business plan. He emphasizes the need for mentorship and the significance of building relationships in business. The conversation highlights the realities of entrepreneurship, including financial struggles and the necessity of adaptability. You can learn more about Michael on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-salemi-40b54b16/ or his company website http://www.colored-threads.com/
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Are you an aspiring entrepreneur or a seasoned business owner looking to sharpen your skills and grow your business? The Default Profitable podcast delivers powerful lessons from real Indianapolis-area business owners who have navigated the ups and downs of starting, running, and scaling their ventures.Join Matt Nettleton and tap into a wealth of knowledge and firsthand experiences, learn to avoid common pitfalls, and stay ahead of industry trends. Whether you’re launching your first venture or optimizing an established one, each episode provides actionable insights and fosters a community of support, helping you achieve sustained, profitable success. https://defaultprofitable.com
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